• j_elgato@leminal.spaceEnglish
    31·
    10 hours ago

    So… we gonna do anything about this - or are we still thinking that slowly walking around in a big circle downtown will remedy all this fascism?

    I mean, I’m down to a do another lap. But it sure seems like things are getting really bad really quickly and that they are about to get a hell of lot worse.

    • dnub@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      oh yes, really hope ppl don’t forget this shit, identify as many of this assholes and arrest them or nag them for the rest of their lives

  • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.socialEnglish
    711·
    14 hours ago

    I would never trust a safety enough to break a window with the muzzle of my rifle. Soooooo many ways for that to go wrong. What a fucking moron. Those poor women.

      • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.socialEnglish
        30·
        13 hours ago

        No I say this as an outraged and confused witness to an abduction of two innocent women. I say this as a disenfranchised voter who is sick and tired of a complicit media using passive language about a Trump loving immigrant from the UK who just shot their daughter. I say this as a firearms owner who sadly cannot advocate for any new gun laws during the current constitutional congress in this country for fear of a Nazi like gun grab. I say this as a son, brother, father and citizen that my rights and the rights of all people in the United States are currently under threat, watching two innocent women be terrorized by Brownshirted thugs backed by a federal office. I say this as a confused resident of a country that continues to refuse to stand up for itself, held captive by controlled opposition called a Democratic party. I say this as a worker who is trying to organize a national strike, as a maker shipping whistles and radios and old mini PCs across this country so that neighborhoods can build rapid response teams to combat this shit.

  • rljkeimig@lemmy.world
    971·
    15 hours ago

    It appears they are using the barrel of the rifle to break the window, which is even sillier than the other thing.

    • Carmakazi@piefed.socialEnglish
      481·
      15 hours ago

      Barrel/muzzle device = steel, buttstock is usually plastic nowadays, not the dumbest thing I’ve seen these goons do. Muzzle strikes are a thing in long arm combatives.

      Probably should have used an actual tool for it, though. And maybe not gangster-gripping the rifle to get a downward trajectory of the round for safety (I am being really, really generous here).

      • rljkeimig@lemmy.world
        29·
        15 hours ago

        More it seems unsafe than damaging to the rifle, but I guess they don’t care about that anyway?

        • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.socialEnglish
          49·
          13 hours ago

          Very fucking unsafe to drive the muzzle of your rifle into any rigid object. Muzzle strikes are a thing. However you target the soft tissue of an assailant that has gotten within grabbing distance of your weapon and you do not want to kill them.

          What this asshole did is dangerous on many fronts. They’re using what appears to be their suppressor, which is atleast an 8" lever, that’s likely screwed into an adapter that’s then screwed onto the barrel. It’s as much of a rube goldberg setup as it sounds. However under normal wear and tear still usually robust. It’s designed to be used in tension to suppress the muzzle flash and report of a fired round by slowing and cooling the resulting gasses.

          What it’s not designed to be used as, is a FUCKING HAMMER, which puts it in compression. This asshole is striking a hard surface, with a steel blunt tube, comprised of a very complicated inner geometry. Not only that but he’s striking at an angle levering the wide and rigid tube against a narrow coupler. I see a baffle strike and a ruined suppressor in his future. Possibly a ruined barrel crown depending on how much he just fucking bent that shit.

          Now, to the biomechanics of what is happening. He had his hand on the pistol grip and his support hand on the foregrip. There’s no fucking leverage there he can meaningfully exert. There’s a reason spears don’t have pistol grips. So the hand around the pistol grip is going to try to get the most purchase on the weapon. Which means it’ll be riding up to the upper of the weapon and on the way there it could turn the weapon safety. Also, around that pistol grip is the trigger.

          The driver of that car is being terrorized, by a moron, who very easily could’ve had a negligent discharge and shot her.

          Fucking nightmare fuel all around. Those poor women. I hope they get justice because I would’ve gone to jail or died if it were me recording.

        • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          11·
          14 hours ago

          Some muzzle devices are explicitly designed to shatter glass alongside normal function - although they’re commonly found on breaching shotguns.

      • AA5B@lemmy.world
        7·
        13 hours ago

        Or perhaps they could realize that honking your horn is free speech and have some sense of perspective - there should not have been an assault rifle

      • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
        3·
        14 hours ago

        There are specific window-breaker muzzle attachments for this purpose. It’s not what I’d use either if something without a gun mounted behind it was available though. Some eBay warrior wanted to try out their high-speed tacticool gear and got their golden opportunity.

    • SalamenceFury@piefed.socialEnglish
      55·
      14 hours ago

      You are supposed to use your muzzle if you need to use your gun as a melee weapon. That’s why bayonets exist.

      • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
        5·
        11 hours ago

        No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.

        • SalamenceFury@piefed.socialEnglish
          24·
          11 hours ago

          Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it’s usually reserved for someone who’s actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don’t actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won’t do anything to the gun’s zero or ability to fire, you don’t do it on a hard surface like glass. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.

          • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
            51·
            11 hours ago

            I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.

            What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.

            Edit: lol love the block because you got called out. Next time don’t spout off stuff you don’t know about. And maybe don’t accuse people of being war criminals just because you’re mad about being called out for being wrong.

            • chloroken@lemmy.mlEnglish
              36·
              11 hours ago

              I’m unrelated to this argument but I still feel obliged to call you a pathetic war criminal.

            • SalamenceFury@piefed.socialEnglish
              25·
              11 hours ago

              Against women and children, I suppose?

              Either way, it’s been a thing for a while now. Buttstriking is not something you do with a long gun.

  • Golden@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    22·
    14 hours ago

    I’m slightly surprised insurance companies aren’t more involved fighting ice. Capitalists usually hate blowing money on stupid shit

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
      311·
      13 hours ago

      The victim’s insurance would gladly say that she is at fault for making the police do this, and the police would back her up. On paper to them, it would be no different than if she had gone on a high speed chase and the cops had to ram her to get her to stop. They will not be paying a dime.

        • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
          11·
          12 hours ago

          Extremely unlikely. Insurance likely has blanket prohibitions on coverage caused by interactions with police. Fault isn’t relevant.

        • big_slap@lemmy.world
          4·
          12 hours ago

          im sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the law and rights you once knew are no longer at play today

        • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
          3·
          11 hours ago

          To be successful, the govt would have to investigate themselves and find wrongdoing. In which case, it wouldn’t be the victim’s insurance paying out, it would be the taxpayer.

          Even if she’s found completely innocent of any wrongdoing, if the govt says the officers did as they were trained, then she’s probably on her own for repairs.

    • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.socialEnglish
      6·
      13 hours ago

      Seeking capitalist solutions for social problems is how we got here in the first place. I’m surprised there aren’t more strikes across the country.