The people doing all the beginning research & work from decades ago should have skipped automobiles-motorcycles & such, as they should phased-out or at worse- replaced with 1 per 10,000 of people or more with: solar panels on bodies, flying & self-driving versions of automobiles, with storage & room for many people. Gone right to our species (the normally used term is sexist) powered cycles, more or less than just two-wheels.

What you think?

I dislike the laziness & getting in the way & on non-motored pedestrians ways of motorized cycles, scooters & Etc…

With the above in consideration, do you consider:

Motorized cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or just different type of automobiles? After all they did exist extremely early on, before motorcycles,

&

Self-driving cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or not?
&
If not, then what do you consider them?

  • Tehdastehdas@piefed.social
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    Two-wheelers are very light and compact to park, but they also can’t keep you dry in rain, fall over on ice, and get stolen too often.

    Adding bicycle-class cars to the mix would help more people give up full-size two-ton cars.

    Kyburz Plus, top speed 30km/h

    • Gross weight ~10% of a typical electric car, so probably ~10% tyre dust too. Heavy enough to make theft difficult compared to e-bikes.
    • For bikeways. If the plastic surface were designed to yield in a crash, a pedestrian could be safer hit by this than by a bare biker on a bare metal bike.
    • Takes less space than a biker because a 4-wheeler can be steered more accurately than a naturally unstable bike needing wobble margins.
    • Banned in many places through lawfare: https://xfwnofqagsnmdxuf.quora.com/Lawfare-against-tiny-cars-velomobiles
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      Two-wheelers are very light and compact to park, but they also can’t keep you dry in rain, fall over on ice, and get stolen too often.

      I have only used a bicycle, rain & cold, prepared have rain gear, same rain gear can be used as cold gear. I next never fallen over, I have never bicycled in snow/ice. I have only had one, crapy bicycle stolen, even parked & locked-up in proper bicycle rack & college’s police had cameras point right towards the bicycle rack. Since was such a falling a part bicycle, I chucked-it-up to a unhoused person needing a bicycle.

      *- It is a awesome example of why all the recording cameras in the world, cannot replace enough members of our species patrolling!

      I have seen automobiles likes these. Can go faster than average bicycler can go. Motorized automobiles not bicycles. No motorized vehicles in cycle-pedestrian ways, means safer because of speed & lighter weights.

      Takes less space than a biker

      You mean someone in a traditional/non-motorized cycle?

      because a 4-wheeler can be steered more accurately than a naturally unstable bike needing wobble margins.

      Also do not forget margins are increased with faster speeds,

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    “human-powered” is sexist? or “manually-powered”? or “pedal-powered”?

    I’m seeing “anthrodyne” and “acoustic bicycle” more recently, too.

    Anyway, that aside, more than half of steering a bicycle is balance. How / why / what benefit from trying to automate that?

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      Human is obviously sexist, I have yet to think about manually, in that way, have to break it down.
      How could petal be sexist?

      I’m seeing “anthrodyne” and “acoustic bicycle” more recently, too.

      I do not what those two are, will have to duckduckgo them.

      species (the normally used term is sexist) powered cycles, more or less than just two-wheels.

      3 (I have seen many of them) or more (4-wheels I seen only once) wheels cycles are natural structural balanced, so not a issue for them. The same benefit as in the automobiles.

      It would be better in my opinion to focus on cycles for the future, then to focus on environmentally more costly automobiles. What do you think?

      What about the other questions?

      Motorized cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or just different type of automobiles?

      If there were existing (heck maybe they are, I just do not know it), Self-driving cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or not?

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    I mean there was this thing called a rowbike and while the thought of a self driving bike sorta reviled me but then I thought about the tow bike. Thing is if its self driving I think at that point it would be nice to be kind of like a velomobile and maybe some environment control. So like I guess it would need to be like a self driving aptera where you could power it with a full body rowing thing as well as solar.